But there is a notable difference in Paul from pre- to post-conversion. Youre the one playing fast and loose because youve made nonsense article doctrine even though Paul verbatim tell you where he comes from, his theology. Taken directly from Talmud. When Paul began the training that ultimately led him down the road of encounter with the risen Christ on the way to Damascus, we actually have no details. For example, But I discipline my body and keep it under control, lest after preaching to others I myself should be disqualified (1 Corinthians 9:27 ESV). In athletics and my walk with Christ, I must remain disciplined in all that I do. Who needs truth in relationship, when I can quickly get market share, and totally dominate the market, through mergers and acquisitions? That is OK, if it is not handy then I can look it up myself. Exactly what Issa p al Masih did about 500 years earlier! Do you have a reference handy mentioning Gamaliel in the Clementine lit? Gamaliel said success would determine the truth of the movement. Written in stone. What could be more permanent than that? I dont want to bite the hand that feeds me (and my family). First off reading the first paragraph, his human teachers and influences matter almost as much as guidance by the Holy Spirit did. There are three things bearing on this subject among the incidental intimations which we have in respect to the early history of Saul, viz. But the testimonies of the era indicate he would have become a ward and trainee of Gamaliel in the age range of 10-14. As a result, Paul calls Peter a hypocrite for following Maase HaTorah or in English Works of the Law instead of what following what the Torah actually stated. God wants to welcome anyone into His family who has the desire to seek, follow, obey, trust, and love God. That is incorrect. The Acts of the 12 Apostles arent even Canonical but some trash letters that have brought nothing good to the world are exalted as scripture, which is because Paul says scripture in it, which actually is equal to Aggadah and not inspired or less important. Plenty of time for him to get familiar with popular Greek culture in order to draw appropriate analogies. However I do travel to Dallas for Shavuot to visit one of Messianic Rabbis down there. Supposition isnt the problem. See also John 17:17; Eph 5:17; Acts 2:41. This Evangelical Mantra has been accepted by the collective subconscious mind of The Evangelical Church without thought, question, reflection, or even 2 witnesses from the Scripture itself. The teachings he received included "the perfect manner of the law of the fathers" (Acts 22:3). What was his first name? And I need to save a throne for my mom, or shell be mad. Dear Philip, Below are quotes and links from two other blog gentlemen (Christopher, and UnashamedofJesus) who disagree with each other. We cannot prove that Judas was present at that time, and we cannot prove that Matthias was absent at that time when Jesus spoke those words. How can I make them understand that they should deal with Paul Worship the same way that I deal with smoking weed? "From noon until three in the afternoon darkness came over all the land." This was where the institution derived its name, gymnos being the Greek word for naked. For Jews, nakedness was religiously offensive (11). By Paul being Jewish and involved in the gymnasium, he was going against the norm. Phillip, thank you. 1973 Inside the mind of a Jesus Person. I find it interesting to look at this perspective that you pointed out, PLong: He was an ultra-conservative reacting to what he perceived as a dangerous liberal view. Everyone seems to give Saul a bad rap (and rightly so) for his actions towards believers before his conversion, however, this at least gives us a context to understand him better. Gravity. Or see the series of posts on Core Beliefs of Second Temple Judaism starting here: https://readingacts.com/2017/03/30/core-beliefs-of-second-temple-judaism-shema/. Wright (and others) point out that Gamaliel II seems more, er, pacifist Acts, while Paul seems to want to zealously pursue those who are accusing the High Priest of killing an innocent man. and to make a point in this conversation,where did you get the idea that Saul (Paul) was Jewish.? I wrote a short note on Pauls relationship with Gamaliel two years ago and it has been one of the more popular posts on Reading Acts. / 2 Tim. For example, Polhill says, The most interesting ruling preserved from Rabban Gamaliel was his insistence that a woman had the right to remarry upon the testimony of a single witness that her husband had died. Jesus spoke the words recorded in Matthew 28:18-20, including make disciples of all nations. Jesus never used the term Great Commission, its simply a tradition of men. You will seek Him and find Him when you seek Him with all your heart.. To my Bible-believing Evangelical friends: If you have been reading some of my posts and you feel a spirit rising up inside you telling you: Hes wrong !!! Gamaliel was a Pharisee, and a prestigious teacher of the law in the council. I think they are both wrong, because of Ephesians 2:15 and Matthew 5:17-20, among other Scripture passages Can you help to bring harmony in the Bride of Christ? I found Pauls athletic references to be really intriguing as well Emily. [erase erase erase], Actually, the same is true for you Thaddaeus, after you were appointed. . Gymnasiums were built for these people who participated in game in which they engaged in sports naked. We need to remnber that scripture was written to do four basic things: Teach, Train, Correct and Rebuke. In Galatians 1:21, Paul wrote, "I went into the regions of Syria and Cilicia .". One could envisage that the power of God was already hard wired in the heart some people through faith in his words and by grace in his blood just as Gamaliel proclaimed, A homeowner called his friend, who was a painting contractor. When cult members repeat their mantra, it makes them deaf to the voice of God, unable to hear God. We cant read without any number of lenses (Suppositions) coloring our reading. Moreover, Paul preached that gentiles ingrafted into the olive tree were part of Israel is a teaching DIRECTLY from Hillel. Somebody did the calculations of Paul's education, and said he basically had the equivalent of two Ph.D.'s by the time he was 21 years of age. If it wasnt for his prior teaching and influence, then he would not of had the zeal and passion. The NIV headings were not part of the original text, and sometimes they can be misleading, but in this case I believe the heading is right on. I almost wonder if his upbringing had anything to do with the way that he thought and he acted towards Christians. I could just say Jesus is our model. But never discuss the Scriptures that show why Paul is NOT our model. in a meticulous, more comprehensive way. How can we account for this violent reaction in a man trained by Gamaliel? If we didnt also have the clear records in Mark and Luke, it would be a fairly logical assumption that Jesus sent them out right away, but it would still be just an assumption. Whom I might add are much more well versed that you in that subject. If Paul began study at the latest age of 16, we can guess a birth year of about 6 at the earliest. This idea can even be applied to his post-conversion work seeing how he sought to integrate the Gentiles into the Church when it was still a controversial issue. .1) Fuhrer. Phillip J. Acts 22:3 - "I am indeed a Jew, born in Tarsus of Cilicia, but brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel, taught according to the strictness of Last Weeks Reading: Evangelicals, Water, and the Theology of Paul New Ways Forward, http://readingacts.com/2013/09/09/paul-and-gamaliel/, https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zGS_V5mEOG4, Romans, Part 57 | The Gospel and the Religious Mind, https://unashamedofjesus.org/2016/05/31/greatest-commandment/#comment-5642, https://wonderfulgraceofjesus.wordpress.com/2017/03/08/the-commandments-of-jesus/#comment-120, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65t-OzhlmvE, Pauls Jewish Heritage (Philippians 3:4-6) | Reading Acts, What Kind of Jew was Paul? Well then, I will stop responding to you since you are not interested in learning anything which does not conform to your already-made-up mind. Not the voice of the accuser, Boss Paul the Pharisee, Telling the redeemed people of God About what they used to be. I would not limit the intervention of God in the light of Pauls claim in Galatians 1 that God had prepared him before he was born for the grace he has received (Gal 1:15). I dont think that he is a Christian pharisee however, I believe that he just holds close to the teachings that he received for over half of his life before his conversion. Pauls athletic references good point Emily. Gamaliel. Hillel disagreed on this aspect, due to many converts in the Torah ( Ruth, Obidiah, Abraham etc.) Dont be put off by the ravings of Paul the Pharisee that so many Bible-believing Christians push so hard. I trust that no one is offended and that as a result of this comment, we might get closer to Him, The Truth. Who was Paul's mentor in his study of Judaism? Believe. What does tents mean in the Bible? My question is, is it too outrageous to see Pauls tendency (pre-conversion and post-conversion) as one that is either starting up a new hybrid of Jewish thought or a member of one of the smaller groups already formed? Undoubtedly, most of the Jews knew who Gamaliel was, and thus they allowed Paul to speak. But Pauls teachings drive one up the wall. In fact, it is in this capacity where he is first mentioned in Acts 5. . My view is very similar to the traditional Orthodox view of the texts of Scripture for almost 2000 years. He is never popular, but always interesting! Gamaliel the Elder, or Rabban Gamaliel I, was a leading authority in the Sanhedrin in the early first century CE. Moseley is not wrong: the earliest Christ followers were Jewish and no one tried to convert to Christianity, but that is because there was no Christianity to convert to at that point. The issue is that the massive influx of gentiles into the sect are causing problems by bringing in gentile customs, natural born Jews adhearing to traditions that contradict Torah. Why is it so hard to give a straight answer to this simple question? Gamaliel (Acts 22:3) Who wrote 1 and 2 Timothy? Oh well. Anyway, Ill talk with Clinton and see if he has an idea for a short catchy slogan- maybe boiled down to four words or so. To be more like Jesus is what some strive except for me Ive already arrived Im the perfect model since the road to Damascus What were Pauls sins? In regards to Gamaliel, based off of Acts 5:35-40, he seemed to be a wise teacher. Modern day Christianity has more of its roots in Constantine. Since November 2021, Reading Acts is edited by Sarah Westphal. If Paul's conversion, as described in Acts was a literal event, the account would not so clearly appear to be based on the Greek classics. Shaul and Yehusa were both Jews who practiced Judaism, worshiped in synagogues, at the temple and were part of Jewish society and culture. He left James as Nassi of his Sanhedrin, who is a Pharisee. Neither do I condemn you said Jesus, to a woman entrapped by dogs. Why follow a self-appointed voice that has given itself a special title like immaculate conception prophet apostle to the gentiles? Which one is it? Paul probably understood Judaism better than all of these false teachers put together. Things which are unclear, those must remain that way until the Holy Spirit reveal them to each and everyone of us according to the level of grace , and most importantly, for a particular purpose, We born again believers do not read to know like them, but we read to live. I am not sure we can know, but Aramaic seems likely, although Scripture would be studied in Hebrew. Paul was in Jerusalem from the age of 3 (under Gamaliel), so to assume he already knew how to WRITE Greek would be fallacious. 1:1, / 1 Cor. To think that all Jewish people were completely unified is to share the same fantasy Christians have about the early church. Then stood there up one in the council, a Pharisee, named Gamaliel, a doctor of the law, had in reputation among all the people, and commanded to put the apostles forth a little space; Numbers 7:59 chapter context similar meaning "And for a sacrifice of peace offerings, two oxen, five rams, five he goats, five lambs of the first year: this was the offering of Gamaliel the son of Pedahzur." While his academic eloquence and Oxbridge accent package his presuupositional as carrying high credibility, it too frequently in substance simply does not. On page 38 Polhil writes, Paul certainly showed more the attitude of the zealots than of Gamaliel. Polhil also mentions in Phillipians 3:5-6, Paul refers to his persecuting in close connection with his zeal for the law. Polhil then mentions that a modern Zionist would have a yearning for the independence of the nation and the restoration of the glory of the temple by the Messiah. After reading our sections it seems to me that although Paul studied under Gamaliel, his actions resembled more closely to the Shammaite party. How long was Paul in Arabia? I meant to say for rejecting Mohammed (p) and worshipping a man who said worship God alone, Jesus (p), and adding a third God to the 1 and His son making a pagan Trinity, Christianity is anathema to its worshipped human founder (in name only and in Greek at that) who said OUR God is ONE worship HIM!. (John 10:33) This is still the issue with many Jews, God simply cannot become fully Incarnate. Why do so many people frequently attack and tear down and dismiss the Original Apostles, particularly Peter, as if they were all incompetent, stupid, and wrong in so many ways, and they didnt even know what an Apostle was? For example, when Jesus was speaking about a new command I give you, Jesus didnt say THE new commandment, or the FIRST commandment, or the MOST IMPORTANT commandment, or the ONE commandment, or the GREATEST commandment, or ONE RULE. Lets not waste our time with endless debates about what Paul really meant with his wacky teachings about baptizing the dead or there is neither male nor female. Paul was wrong. when did congress pass the noahide laws; what is monzo building society account? Paul claims to have been educated by Gamaliel, one of the premier teachers of the Law in the first century. (Paul said so is one witness, but you need to establish every matter by the testimony of two or three witnesses. And most of all, he wouldnt of been able to defend the Gospel in such a way as if he did not have the correct teaching. Do you have a Biblical basis for your response? I am not at all removing Paul (or Jesus) from the culture of the Second Temple period, but I certainly more aware of what was happening in the first century that you appear to be. That is an issue and is creating confusion regarding the Brit Chadashah (Renewed Testament). Thus, Matthew was providing a second written witness, confirming the testimony of Jesus.). You said that your QUOTE Quran is incorruptible. Thats like many Christians saying the Bible is inerrant. Muhammad is to Muslims as Paul is to most Christians as Mary is to most Catholics an idol that they worship, practically speaking. Of course Gamaliel might have buried St. Stephen as an act of charity, given his stature in the community, not withstanding the hostility of the public. This is the reason why Yeshua said that Pharisee should be the the ones teaching. I am enjoying the discussion and information/opinions/wisdom here. Im following Jesus. This is a good point, although I am not sure that the tradition is totally reliable. That is the basic idea of the heavy-duty seminary language we were being trained in. Er was the first person God killed for being wicked ( Gen 38:7 ). It is interesting in seeing the difference in view points of Saul and Gamaliel. Once we allow things that we can not say with certainty, we give a foothold to the enemy to sow his seed too. It is a Rembrandt. About The Author Tovia Singer - Rabbi Tovia Singer is well known as the Founder and Director of Outreach Judaism, an international organization dedicated to countering the efforts of fundamentalist Christian groups and cults who specifically target Jews for conversion. To which Paul replied, youre fired. Paul then took his team of painters, and started painting the garage and the house. He also intimately knew Gamaliel was was there, at least at The time of Pentecost. The sect were known as Nazarites or Netzrim and in later writings Messianics. I tried to look for the beginning (Acts 1), because a friend Im discipling has asked to go through Acts with me, and this looks like good supplement material. Nowhere. Terms in this set (31) Where was Paul born? I think in certain ways, Paul can be described as a Christian Pharisee who believes in Jesus because there are times when Paul goes very much by the books and follows certain rules. Eryk, have you ever heard of dual citizenship? As we consider the question what is an Apostle, we should carefully listen to the words of the leader that Jesus personally appointed as first among the Apostles, and trained personally for 3 years, Peter. While he agrees with Gamaliel, Paul wants to protect that which he loves. He sent Shaul to the gentiles to teach his message and he is a Pharisee. The reason why the Essenes left and went into the desert was because they believed the Pharisee were to lax in their laws and punishment in the Sanhedrin. (Acts 9:20-22) I think his training with Gamaliel was a large influence on his passion though. Your comments are ridiculous and borderline stupidity. Three hours, noon to 3 pm. Paul undermined Apollos and heretically claimed I became your father. He was an expert in the law. The moment Paul stopped persecuting the disciples of Jesus Christ, he stopped fighting against God. The New Testament was not written nor codified till well after both Yeshua and Shaul were gone. The people who Paul persecuted were Diaspora Jews who accepted Jesus as Messiah and claimed that God raised Jesus from the dead. That is absolutely incorrect. It bothered Peter so much that G-d sent him a vision regarding gentiles coming into the faith. . I think Sam is right (somewhere up the thread), one can differ from his teacher, sometimes radically. In 2019 he published a commentary. Sign up. Notice that at the Last Supper, when Judas lost his throne and Matthias was definitely absent, Jesus chose to speak of thrones rather than twelve thrones as he had previously. Perhaps Gamiliels views influenced Pauls personal comments on marriage in 1 Cor 7 (Polhill, Paul and his Letters, 30). As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. Saul (Paul) Persecutes the Church [edit | edit source] In Chapter 9 of Acts, we come into close contact with Saul, later known as Paul, for the first time. Jesus spoke the 3 chapters of the Sermon on the Mount, Matthew 5-7, including 7:12. The homeowners friend, the painting contractor, apologized, and explained: I hired a new foreman named Paul, but that was a huge mistake. Jesus didnt make PART of this one verse out of context into The Golden Rule or one rule. Jesus did not use the term Golden Rule, its simply a tradition of men. This article is the result of when you remove the culture/context of the scriptures, the Hebraics of the Brist Chadasha (Renewed Testament) and injecting the christian outlook that Shaul (Paul) divorced his Jewish roots. ), was the portable earthly dwelling place of Yahweh (the God of Israel) used by the Israelites from the. The one in Deuteronomy 6:4-5, or the one in Leviticus 19:18 ? In fact, it almost sounds as if he is name-dropping in order to impress people! Pauls speech and thought directly lines up with the teachings of Hillel.. Then, in Acts 22:3, Paul says that he was "brought up in this . Infact, the sect that condemned Yeshua were Sadducee. What you consider mainsteam Judaism is nothing like the previous sects of Judaism and infact evolved after the temple was destroyed. Being a Pharisee did not disqualify you from believing in Yeshua. Long has taught full time at Grace Christian University since 1998, specializing in Bible and Biblical languages. But I am a Reformed Anglican. Also known as Saul of Tarsus, he had been rescued by Roman troops and now faced the people from a stairway near the temple in Jerusalem. It is the drastic nature of the difference in his life after he surrenders to Jesus that testifies to the Power and Truth of who Christ is, as well as to the wonder of the great mystery that is later revealed to Paul! Stop pitying yourself, you are not being persecuted. The commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not murder, Do not steal, Do not covet, and whatever other commandment there may be, are summed up in this ONE RULE: Love your neighbor as yourself. Love does no harm to its neighbor. Paul (previously called Saul of Tarsus; c. 5 - c. 64/65 AD), commonly known as Paul the Apostle and Saint Paul, was a Christian apostle who spread the teachings of Jesus in the first-century world. 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